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Your quote here, "I don't really believe in personal happiness. I believe in interpersonal happiness." Is profound. I am also glad to learn you didn't outsource the writing of your book.
Question re: the cover: Why is the guy in the hammock? You stress in the book that working 4-hour (or "shorter") weeks is not all about being lazy, but instead, it's about doing what you want to do (languages, travel, etc.) So why the man in the hammock "chilaxing" as the kids say today?
Also, do you think spending time talking to Google and tech conferences is worthwhile? You minimize and somewhat disdain the use of email, PDAs/phones and other technologies, and clearly, these folks can't start working 4-hour weeks, as you acknowledge. You say in another video your target market isn't someone who can't pay the bills. Why not? Surely they are the ones who most need it, not snarky overpaid techies.
I enjoyed the interesting tidbits from this talk. I've got ONE tiny suggestion, though that might improve your vids and speeches for everyone. Since your talks are pretty "low-key" from a vocal standpoint, you might want to have the sound guys really boost your voice a bit, or wear your mic much closer to your mouth. I had a lot of difficulty hearing you on this vid and I had both the players volume and my laptop volume all the way up. Plus, I'm sitting in a room with zero outside noise. Folks in an office might have a really hard time hearing this while enjoying a sandwich over lunch, or all the clicking on Facebook as you suggest. Also, might I suggest, since you're great at tweaking your persona. . .a vocal/speech coach? What would REALLY help you go the distance is a bit of vocal projection, and those folks can work wonders on you with a few quick lessons. I hope you appreciate the constructive criticism. . .:-)
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I'm off for one more day of playing in the surf. Back to normal life tomorrow. I'll catch the video then.
Brilliant! Loved the interview and found the information very useful. I wish to see more videos like this. Not neccessarily an hour long, but informative 1/2 hours would be great. We love to see you explain your principles and to see you living the lifesyle. I wish you would do a talk/interview in NYC. I would be first on line! All your videos are great, and please keep up the good works. And congrats on the book anniversary!
Chuck
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Hi Sean,
No worries. I'd recommend you reread the "automation" section of the book and then jump onto the reader-only forums you see above in the nav bar. Good luck!
Tim
From what I remember of high school Latin, "reductio ad absurdum" is correct. ;-)
Interesting that you use your middle finger to point to yourself when you talk about the 80/20 rule with your customers that you no longer pro-actively chased... did you realise that? ;-)
Time under tension is an interesting concept, and one I have used myself... have you considered expounding that on your blog?
Lucid dreaming! Yes! It's something I am fascinated with too... unfortunately, I seem too much (to myself) like a coma victim (or at worst, a corpse) while sleeping. ;-)
Excellent interview. We need more of these! :-)
I really am wondering though, being a creative person myself, how could all the outsourcing techniques etc. be applied on artists, composers, graphic designers, as we are the only ones who can make our product. I was already wondering about this while reading the book. Any ideas?
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Hi Farfield,
Funny you should ask. I might be speaking at an event May 8th about this exactly. Will keep you guys posted :)
Tim
Thanks for linking this. I have a question that has been on my mind since reading the 4hww. Perhaps you can do a blog post on this: What are your feelings on handling investment risk while finding a muse? Do you typically try a couple of ideas (@$1000 -web development plus market testing -- each) and see which one sticks?
I especially liked the discussion of "The 4-Hour Workweek"'s original title and the unorthodox testing methods you used to determine the best title (google adwords) and especially the way you picked the best cover design! Did you just go in the bookstore, set them up, and watch people? People must have looked confused by the "decoy" book if they actually opened and started reading. Hopefully nobody tried to buy it! I guess I shouldn't be surprised by this. It is a great idea. As long as no employees noticed. But even if they did, what's the worst that could happen? not much.
I didn't have any problems hearing the audio, but I couldn't hear the questions from the audience. I mostly was able to figure out what they asked in context. I think that Tim's style in the interview is great, very relaxed and approachable.
I don't agree with Doc Kane's suggestion to get a vocal/speech coach. Being relaxed is better than being too prepared/polished. If a speaker comes off too polished and forceful, it can make him seem less real and less believable.
Great job Tim!
THANKS! :)
Maybe not... In my culture, it's really rude!
Not believing in personal happiness is one assumption that I recommend you do question. You might be surprised at how happy you can become when you do this.
Project into the future 20 years or more and where will that belief take you? I´m serious. I´ve seen it myself as I spend a lot of time in locations with unhappy successful people. It´s not a pleasant sight.
Thankfully, there are workable solutions.And you will find them as soon as you allow in the possibility that personal happiness can be attained.
Make happiness a priority and you´d be surprised how it keeps popping up!
As Farfield brought up, I too was trying to figure out ways to apply 4HWW techniques to my career choice. I am currently studying to become an acupuncturist. My "product" is in my hands. Although I love what I do, I would prefer to work only "4 hours" a week with my patients and have the rest of the time to pursue other interests. I am very interested in hearing more from your perspective. May 8th you might be speaking on it? Great!!
It was a great way to spend one of my few weekly hours of work. ;)
—Rory
Great interview!
I am from Lithuania ( Baltic State) and I do not believe that we are going to take the ousourcing industry from India like you mentioned :) it is the same comparison as for USA to take over the production industry from China :)
We have much higher cost of living and more expensive work force then India and I do not see how we can be compared with Vietnam in your example. Please, Tim, next time check out the stats before declaring such things.
Thanks
Paulius
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Hi Paulius,
Thanks for the comment. I don't think the Baltic States will be taking 100% of the outsourcing work from India at all, but I do believe that Baltic, former Eastern Block, and South/Central American countries are well poised to become players who compete with India and take some % of the pie. It will take time, but this is what I believe.
There's a good Businessweek article on the "new economics of outsourcing" that shares some of the reasons.
Thanks again for the contribution,
Tim
Thanks
Hugs,
Jen
THANK YOU TIM.
I really value time spent alone and have probably had most of the peak experiences in my life while alone, but I still believe in the point you've made here regarding interpersonal happiness. Since it remains a tricky balancing act for me, I'd love to hear any additional thoughts on how you keep the peace between your distinct needs for solitude and socializing.
As for the other topic, I don't completely believe you refrain from using metrics in your emotional life. They have certainly come into play while outsourcing your dating or in your post about test driving friends. While I agree that keeping meticulous records of who owes who a beer or coffee is silly and insulting to lasting friendships, I think that metrics in relationships are important. Ephemeral, perhaps, but important.
I remember arguing elsewhere on this blog that human relationships are sacred. I do not think that keeping metrics on them is in conflict with that basic premise. Whether we like it or not, relationships are transaction-oriented. It's just that the currencies are different. Kindness, affection, honesty, sexual expression, compassion, humor are all currencies in their own ways.
We've all had the experience of being emotionally drained by another person. Even if we keep no written record of it but we remember to avoid that person in the future, we've used a metric. If we're already invested in a relationship with said draining person and therefore want to uncover and uproot the specific mechanism through which the emotional hemhorraging is taking place, we might coach the person to act differently or coach ourselves to react differently. Still, most of us will try this tactic a given number of times and no more before dismissing the exercise as effective or ineffective. This, too, is a metric. Perhaps it's a metric more dependent on internal definitions than objective ones, but I still think it's a metric.
I suppose the entire concept is limited primarily by how accurate our internal definitions are in the first place. I think we can structure relationships similarly to the way be structure businesses. Both often seem to be defined by a prior experience of what we realize we don't want. A business on auto-pilot? Cool. A relationship on auto-pilot? Also cool.
Tim/Amy/et al: how did you arrive at good date-bad date metrics for your outsource teams? Could you give some examples of your criteria? Trying to reconcile this with your not being "data driven" about relationships and your assertion in the open q&a that character judgement is visceral vs. heavily analytical.
Don't we all have criteria data metrics when we are looking for a mate? Many of us have, height, fitness, intelligence, humor and similar common interests "requirements" to increase the attraction probability? The only thing you can't train outsource personnel is to feel a spark or good vibes. Isn't that the fun in dating?
I do have to say, I now regret not going out with some really good guys due to my personal criteria of my past. My goal this year is to get out of my dating box (he-he) and minus any axe murders, open the playing field even more. I may be missing someone awesome if I stick to certain physical criteria vs personality and compatibility. Besides I am a chick, for me if the guy is smart and funny that trumps physical aspects most times. I have dated guys who by my original physical requirements I would have passed over but won me over by being smart, funny, and interesting. Sometimes the universe knows better than me, so I am open to the possibilities. :)
Hugs,
Jen
I am embarking on a "Lifestyle Design" experiment in this regard at present. It wouldn't be prudent for me to say too much here right now, but hopefully I'll have some interesting results within a month or so.
For basic relationships, I'm typically more concerned with traits that are absent from men, rather than the ones they possess. For instance, the absence of possessiveness, jealousy, controlling tendencies, etc. is more important to me than almost anything else. I've found that once a relationship is infected with any of those issues, they often spread out of control like viruses, and almost always trigger some sort of self-fulfilling doomsday prophecy.
I guess I'm applying the "low expectations" approach to relationship happiness in this regard. Speaking from my own experiences, I can say that it has definitely worked better for me than a high expectation approach.
I've been working on some articles about relationships. I constantly find myself giving relationship advice to friends, acquaintances and even my own mother - so I'm starting to take what I have to say more seriously. I will try to make my stuff publicly available soon. I'll re-post here when I do, assuming Tim lets me. ; )
I guess all technology is about making the move to "get it now"? Kinda scarey, b/c I love books....just wondering what you have heard or your thoughts on the amazon kindle?
best,
--z--
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Hi Zach,
I think the Kindle is great for traveling light, but I enjoy taking notes in books too much to do it when at home. Hope that helps :)
Tim
Also, have you tried Bikram Yoga?
Bikram's alright - provides a decent yoga buzz. Ashtanga incorporates whole categories of poses that Bikram eliminates (arm balances, inversions and more). It creates just as good a sweat without relying on the heat of the room to provide the illusion of intensity.
I sent Amy a lead for a swimming coach.
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I really like that you are doing all this to help us all out, appreciate it. It would be awesome if you could have more of these. Also if you could do one on starting up an automated business or even have other people who have, give advice about it would be awesome. Do you think you are going to do any talks down in Florida in the near future?
Improvements.
You are a tease.
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Hmmmm... did they edit them out? Seriously, they had joked they might have to. Interesting...
Tim
What are your thoughts on products from MLMs such as Quixtar? Are those qualified as muses? What about products from say Amazon as part of their affiliate marketing program? Any advice is appreciated.
Loved the book!
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Hi T,
I don't personally recommend MLMs as what I've seen is bad, and the structures seemed designed to make a few people rich, not produce good products or wealth distribution, no matter what they claim.
Just my 2 cents,
Tim
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Hi Mark,
I'm sure there is a YouTube scraper someone can recommend, but I don't know. Can anyone help on this?
Tim
My personal views on the cover - loved the hardcover book. BUT dint like the softcover as much. The softcover design did not give the impression that it would have such serious and amazing information/techniques inside.
Anyway... by any chance, is it possible to upload images of all the bookcovers you had considered before deciding on one? Curious to know.
Take care
I like that you use economic concepts but 'pareto optimality' refers to something completely different: it means that a given equilibrium in the market could not be changed without making one or more persons worse of. In other words: both producers and consumers are benefitting from the situation.
The 80-20% rule is a well-known management concept, but it isn't used in economics!
Love your work,
many greetings!
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Hi Sean,
I"ve been using AskSunday for about 6 months and love it. I've been very happy with results thus far, and their response time is excellent in my experience. Good English from Manila as well :)
Tim
You might not have been doing this personally, but through other assistants. (its like an ant colony after a while I bet).
Thanks
Sean