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Great post anyway, I always wondered why you didn't actually follow anyone, although I don't think that is a great use of the service.
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Hi Glen,
It's quite hard to get a hold of me :) I'll check with Amy, but a response in a week -- if non-urgent -- would be reasonable. Try e-mailing anyone who gets 100s per day and you'll see what I mean.
I'll check up on it.
All the best,
Tim
Additionally, here in Columbus, OH we have monthly "Tweetups," where all the "Tweeps" meetup for lunch face to face. The people involved in this are very interested in improving the community through social media (ie tweet about events in the community, charity functions, etc.) As such, Twitter has facilitated a powerful group of people interested in improving our city.
Great thoughts though. I just wanted to establish a difference between you (someone who can generate plenty of followers without "following" yourself), and an average "Tweep" (like me).
Great post on the use of Twitter. Have a great story for you. We were filming our Jet Set Life show in Mykonos last week at an overnight sunrise party (at Cavo Paradiso) and we met a great girl that came over to us and said "hey I think I follow you guys on my Twitter". Serendipity!
So, I just finished reading your entire blog (plus the old one)! It took a good 2 days. I made 7 pages of notes and highlighted where questions came up. For most of them, I found the answer in the forums. But, here are two that are outstanding. Can you shed some light?
1. Owning a home: It sounds like you own a home in SanFran? With all the traveling you do, does it make sense to have a "home base" that you own? Do you try to rent it out when you leave for extended periods?
2. Language: How long do you think a language can stay "dormant" without totally digressing to square 1? You write a lot about refreshing a language and I'm wondering how long you've left a language entirely but succeeded in reviving it on demand (with a little practice).
Thanks Tim!
-Annie
Posted this on the thirtydaychallenge.com forum since the 30dc this year (starting in a few days!) is apparently going to rely heavily on twitter.
I figured twitter as a concept would be completely at odds with the Low Information Diet, although as you've pointed out, if you don't follow people on twitter, you don't get overwhelmed with it.. but I'll be interested to see how it all fits together.
So, while I agree with your Twittiquettes and hope to apply them to my own approach to posting, I think they are a personal approach and should not limit people from posting whatever they want. Who knows? maybe we are yet to experience a new way of using Twitter.
P.S. Now you've got me following you on Twitter! Sheesh!
"Signing docs to sell my house in San Jose and looking forward to the Mashable party tonight in SF... 01:20 PM July 15, 2008 from web"
Are you taking your global arbitrage lifestyle full-time or simply moving to a different house?
In September I plan to explore it more.
Great concept with awesome potential. But this tool is not for everyone and with the mass amounts of social sites out there one may consider a few good ones to participate in. Oddly enough, I joined CouchSurfing and get more out of that site than Facebook or Myspace.
Enjoy the City
Jose
"Why don't you follow me on Twitter".
It's kind of lame because I have over 1200 followers, but only follow about 30 of my close friends. I could never possibly keep up with more then that. Nor would I really care to in my busy world of Xbox 360, surfing, and the occasional IM stuff.
I know some people feel slighted, or jipped because I don't follow them.
It's really nothing personal. If I knew you were a kick ass Twitter poster, I'd consider it. But the truth is, I really don't care about reading... "I just watched Facts Of Life reruns again. Natalie is so hot!".
Know what I'm saying?
Peace
J-Mo
Re: followers. I love people to follow me (I am especially curious as to how and why they found me) but I don't follow everyone who follows me, mainly if the tone and substance of their profile and URL doesn't fit my preferences. I have to see their postings so I like it to be stuff I want to see.
Together, we are stronger.
Vicki Flaugher, the original SmartWoman
i follow everyone i know in real life, on twitter. i also post random things about my day (okay, not "just bit into a muffin...mmmmm!!!"), but things like what i'm doing, what i'm feeling, an observation, a thought that someone might appreciate...it goes on. most of my friends (with a few irritating exceptions) also do the same. that way, i'm always in touch, without actively being in conversation with everyone. if someone's having a bad day, or if i have something to say that won't fit 140 chars, i pick up the phone and call/text. i dislike links because they force me to fire up my phone's browser (or leave whatever's already on it) to complete the picture of what my friend wanted to say.
twitter is different from phone or text or im, because it's a sort of selective broadcast. it's also more timely than a blog. twitter is also not the sort of medium where i'd post something i'd want to recall a month from now. that's going straight to my blog.
twitter helps me stay in touch with friends who might have otherwise drifted apart due to geographical/time zone distance. compared to the friends who aren't on it, the contrast is stark enough to be black and white - if a friend lives in another city and isn't on twitter, it's almost guaranteed that we'll be out of touch in a few months :D
Any plans for a meet-up with readers while you are in NYC this weekend?
Great post!
Tiffani
I would argue that #3 is dependent on how you've chosen to execute point #1. If you're adding value by providing resources and information, yeah, sure, links are welcome and often necessary. I follow a few people who provide value this way (and not in the dig-me, self-linking, broadcast-y way). Most of them, however, use that as part of a mix that includes entertainment in heavy rotation.
As you yourself alluded in point #1, there's value in entertaining. At least as much value, sometimes more, than straight information.
After all, All Work and No Play, as the man typed over and over...
Global Language Exchange Community
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PS - Great book I am working through the action steps right now.
i did the amazing Ride up to Whistler from Vancouver - incredible Views*
U will have to checkout the 2010 Olympics in Whistler fer sure*
Ski Bunny Heaven!! ;)) Peace*
Having grown up in the area, I know it to be truth--but having spent most of my life far away,it's nice to be reminded of the beauty of such places...
Revival is tomm. It is buy one get one free from 11pm-2pm. The bartender is a cool guy too, he is from San Antonio. Just a heads up if you make around that area in Union Square.
Cheers
Jose
I did not discover you and your work until a couple months ago and now it occurs to me that even though i have visited your blog a few times, commenting has never occurred to me until i saw the picture of the bacon on the doughnut. I would call it blasphemy if you hadn't brought it from a place called Voodoo Doughnuts. I can understand the "meth-high-inducing Grape Ape doughnut" your average glazed krispy creme doughnut will do that to me by the time I reach for the second one. BUT BACON ON A TOFFEE DOUGHNUT @#$%^
I did not think my first conversation with the person that opened my eyes to "effective action" or detailed fantasies of how to use MMII would be about doughnuts, i just could not help myself.
Love your blog btw,
Cheers,
Tabs
Thanks for the great comments and discussion! I think Twitter is like eating an ice cream or fashion sense -- there is no one approach that will suit everyone. If the "end" in mind were clear, perhaps, but when it's something more amorphous, it seems a case of: do what makes you feel best.
REGARDING NYC:
I'm thinking of having a meet-up in NYC (Manhattan or Brooklyn) in two weeks or so. Any suggestions for a cool spot that can hold 200 people on a weeknight?
Pura vida :)
Tim
Just please don't make it August 7-10 because I'll be in Las Vegas and I dont want to miss it! :)
I am using your book to build my New Lifestyle!!!! I am sooo excited to use my new online based business to fuel my wants and desires of my life.
AGAIN!!!! I never would have done anything but work if you had not wrote this book!!!!
...
Tell me what you think of the site. Thanks!
TaNinya
I loved your rules about Twitter use and I love the fact that you don't follow anyone. I also love the fact that I don't use Twitter at all.
Like you say, gotta stick to the low-info diet and people will feel slighted or offended if you don't follow them, and there's no way to follow everyone. That's why blogrolls are generally a bad idea...not worth explaining to people why you chose such and such but not them.
Although, if we would be grown men and women about this, instead of acting like we're in high school, not getting noticed on social media shouldn't be a big deal. What happened to simply doing things because they're fun?
I like what Jason Moffatt commented here:
"Yeah, I get these kind of emails all the time…
'Why don’t you follow me on Twitter?'
It’s kind of lame because I have over 1200 followers, but only follow about 30 of my close friends. I could never possibly keep up with more then that. Nor would I really care to in my busy world of Xbox 360, surfing, and the occasional IM stuff."
Quite frankly the overwhelming majority of Tweets and blog posts and Diggs and Stumbles and whatever else are not worth consuming. They just aren't.
It's usually much more worthwhile and fun to go outside and play some football or hit up a local bar.
You know--actually living. Like you did on your trip, Tim.
It's not Manhattan or Brooklyn but there is a very cool outdoor Bohemian Beer Garden in Astoria, Queens, just a short subway ride from Manhattan (last stop on the N/W train). The outdoor space could easily hold 200+ people, especially on a weeknight.
http://www.bohemianhall.com/home.htm
BTW-this sucks! Your here or coming here to NYC and i am just leaving! Oh well. Hope to get to see you at a conference or something in the future. I am moving south tomm to start my new life. Going to really use the 4hour work week and make it work! I have already read and reread your book and have made great changes. Time to ramp things up a notch.
See you out there!
I'd like to invite you to comment on this situation, as it seems to me that it is related to some of the comments I often read in response to your book.
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Hi Zina,
Good question. I use Twitter to ask, as it's faster and often more convenient for people to reply (they can use their cell or PDA). I do reply to questions, but I funnel people to the blog for this purpose.
Directing people -- friends or strangers -- to your most responsive channel of communication is a good thing for both sides. To always take and never give is bad, but to chose how you give is just being economical and avoiding overwhelm.
Just my 2 cents -- hope that helps explain my thinking!
Tim
I want to tell you about my trip over the weekend to remind people to just get in a car and do it! Fri.-Mon. was supposed to be in Portland and ended up zip lining on Vancouver Island.
Portland: Fri/Sat- Masu sushi with a friend, Kenny and Zukes for breakfast, walked to Powells, Oregon Brew Fest, and Saturday Market. I skipped Voodoo which was recommended since I was not in a doughnut mood.
Almost went back to Seattle and wanted to come up the coast and didn't realize that 101 split (no map) so from Olympia I ended up on the inland 101 and hit Port Angeles right in time for the 9:30pm ferry to Victoria. Got a room at Swans, Sauce for late dinner, was literally carried over to Social by a guy who was six-four, asked how much he had to drink before I got on his shoulders, danced to 80's and 90's and had coffee at a gas station-Mac's at 2:30 am.
Sun-ate at De Dutch for breakfast since Lady Marmalade was packed, went zip lining in Sooke, back to Vic for Sunday market, lunch at Paradiso, back to Seattle where I had dinner at Matador Tequila bar in my neighborhood.
I am constantly harassed as a solo girl traveler eating out alone or especially at the border where they ask me all sorts of questions. People are even shocked by a bacon doughnut!
Anton
What is you're 30 years old? This would allow you 10,950 days until age 60. Now what would you consider wasting?
I realize these are all rhetorical questions but I think it sheds some light on some basic facts: 1) We're here for only a short amount of time and 2) It is crucial that we make the most of the time we have on this planet.
Hope this helps, I know it's helped me.
Enjoy the Big Apple_
Jose
Good question. I use Twitter to ask, as it's faster and often more convenient for people to reply (they can use their cell or PDA). I do reply to questions, but I funnel people to the blog for this purpose.
Directing people -- friends or strangers -- to your most responsive channel of communication is a good thing for both sides. To always take and never give is bad, but to chose how you give is just being economical and avoiding overwhelm.
Just my 2 cents -- hope that helps explain my thinking!
Tim
Rob Scoble views this differently. He follows and follows. Hey, he is an human aggregator.
Here is his take on Twitter.
http://scobleizer.com/2008/03/23/the-secret-to-...
I am reading your book at work... you do have a big head.
My question is, if I am stuck at my salaried job because I have to be physically in the office and it pays well. What are your thoughts about my finishing my critical work in less than 40 hrs and then secretly reading or doing other activities that I enjoy. Am I am being 'unfaithful' to your model?
-David, age 42, married 3 kids, Ivy League grad
Thanks for the Scoble link, Joe, I found that very interesting. While the big adventure in life (for me, at any rate) is the other people in it and specifically the life experiences very different from mine, this particular viewpoint intrinsically appeals to me (sort of, amplifying and abetting my own natural viewpoint).
Admittedly, I usually simply scan Twitters (I only use the web end, I don't use it on my mobile) and focus on just the ones that I'm currently interested in, even with as small a Twitter group as I have. It keeps my information flow a little lower -- I'm a communication junkie, so I've been considering how to staunch the flow as per the 4HWW canon while maintaining the rate that will make me feel as connected to the people in my life as I wish to be.
Sorry for the length of this, I haven't time to edit this morning! :)
Thanks, Chloe
-Myles Kessler
Also I noticed a few people mentioning on Twitter that your tweets are often like ads and the places must pay you. I find it amusing and of course don't believe in it. Just imagining the Corner Bistro paying you in burgers for your little tweet ad... lol. BTW this place doesn't need publicity, all New Yorkers know it plus it's been mentioned in enough guide books for tourists to head there first for a good (def not best) burger...
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LOL... yes, the Corner Bistro is paying me in ground chuck and fries. Of course, the idea that I would tweet out suggestions to only places that pay me is ridiculous. My time is better spent elsewhere for income.
I'm not tweeting out Corner Bistro necessarily for New Yorkers, though several of my friends here had never heard of it. It's more an offer to anyone who might find it of interest.
I also don't believe that people "need" a faster response on my blog and that they don't have time. They choose to rush -- simple as that. I have almost 4,000 followers and sometimes get up to 100 tweet questions per day. It just isn't a good use of my time to turn it into another inbox.
Remember: every time you say "yes" to something, you're saying "no" to something else.
Cheers,
Tim
Siempre,
Jose Castro-Frenzel, the half nica half german dude from Dallas.
"tferriss Just found out 4HWW is Num 6 on the Wall Street Journal bestseller list this week for the 66th wk straight. Should I shower with holy water?"
Since holy water is traditionally used for expiatory and purificatory purposes, it would depend on whether you feel hitting the the sixth place on the the bestseller list is positive or negative.
For those who feel this is a positive achievement, showering with holy water might possibly chase this sign of, well, achievement or whatever you will, away. The love of money being the root of all evil and that. So, in this case, perhaps not.
For those who feel this is a negative achievement (for some people, nothing less than #1 will do), showering in holy water might be to hope for perhaps possible advancement on the list. Authors have done sillier things before. (Of course, showering in it would be overkill; like perfume, it's not supposed to take much holy water to do the job.) In this case, though, perhaps you might like to get your head checked for finding placement on the list a negative.
A third and strangely attractive (if a bit icky) option, for those who are severely envious of a sixth place position on the list, showering in water, capturing and packaging it, and selling it as the Water of Tim Ferriss's Bestseller Mojo might earn you some serious cash. Of course, in this instance, you'd look a bit grasping, even if you would sell quite a bit of it, just in case it worked.
Aren't you glad you don't follow me on Twitter and instead sent me to your blog?
Congratulations. :)
Just finished your book and have already recommended to over five people even before finishing.
I was just up in North Vancouver today on Grouse Mountain beautiful spot. Since you don't read the paper or the news you may not have heard that the Sea to Sky highway is still shut down between Vancouver and Whistler for there was a big rock slide. Lucky you were in and out when your did.
Thanks for some of the instant great tips in your book. The email management/blackberry has made the biggest difference. The one I really am having fun with is the two phone numbers a day. It is amazing how easy they are to get and how happy the gals you are that you ask. The one that worked great in the parking lot of the trail head this morning was, "hey mountain chick." She was an doorsy looking gal and she really digged the handle. She showed me the cool knife she was carrying too. Didn't ask for her number for she was packing.
Enjoy the freedom...
Kevin R. has over 55,000 followers, owns 3 companies, has a girlfriend and I still see him responding directly on Twitter...
You're personal opinion and view of Twitter is valid, as is everyone's. Just recognize it for that: personal opinion. There is no law defining how Twitter is to be used.
I know Kevin personally and you're comparing apples and oranges. He and I have different businesses, different roles, and different goals.
Gary Vaynerchuk spends 12-14 hours a day on e-mail and has made $50 million+ in retail. Should I therefore do the same?
I know 7-figure income fathers who work on Christmas and family holidays -- should I imitate that when I have a family?
Kevin and I have different commitments and different likes/dislikes when it comes to digital communication. Two people, two different uses of Twitter.
People who criticize my lack of following on Twitter -- if they've read the book -- are asking me to contradict my own advice on strategic ignorance.
Kevin's companies are all communication-based: Digg, Rev3, Powce. So he spends a ton of time communicating. As he should.
Kevin and I do share several things in common. One is: we don't want to be hypocrites and try to practice what we preach.
I don't expect to convert you, but hope that helps explain my thinking,
Tim
What is community, and how does one's own definition of "community" differ from someone else's definition? What is owed to the general community, from the individual's point of view, morals/ethics, and judgement? Where is the dividing line between reasonable and successful self-interest and selfishness? How does where that dividing line falls affect one's own actions in our business lives? To what extent does any of that matter? And how do small decisions about one's business and personal life affect the entire, larger picture?
These are very Smithian questions, and the answers will be different for each individual. I feel that applying these questions to the subject of Twitter usage and style of the same is going to be useful in people's thinking on the subject.
I don't want to get into discussions of value judgments on the moral aspects Tim's Twitter usage or even of his entire book; I am not entirely certain my comments would be of any use to anyone reading and/or commenting upon his blog. Surely it's preferable to simply figure out one's own reaction. At any rate, regardless of ethical agreement, one can always find and learn lessons from other people's experience and teaching, keep what one judges to be of acceptable use, and make note of the rest.
The first line of Adam Smith's The Theory of Moral Sentiments is as follows:
"How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature, which interest him in the fortunes of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it, except the pleasure of seeing it."
Speaking at the World Economic Forum (2008), Bill Gates took this idea and spoke further on the idea of a creative capitalism (as opposed to a laissez-faire capitalism) in order to relieve poverty:
"Creative capitalism takes this interest in the fortunes of others and ties it to our interest in our own fortunes in ways that help advance both. This hybrid engine of self-interest and concern for others can serve a much wider circle of people than can be reached by self-interest or caring alone."
Just a quick note to tell you something... I F**KING HATE YOU!!! But, I mean that in a good way. Every time I see you, or read your blog, or listen to your book again, I just want to run up to you and freakin' pound you in the arm. I've never been so jealous of someone as I am of you! The only thing that would make tis worse would be if you started talking about how you seduce hundreds of women around the world. Then I'd... well... beg you to tell me your technique and then punch you in the arm.
Good Luck on your continued success, even though I hate you.
-Bill
Signed
TMI with not enough information
ANYWAY THAT IS FOR THOSE WHO CAN DREAM AND THEN ACT UPON THOSE DREAMS.
I WOULD LIKE SOME ADVISE ON INTERNET BUSINESSES,ONE IS [removed], THE OTHER IS [removed] A LENDING COMPANY.
THEY WANT FROM $400. TO $5000. FROM ME AND THEY PROMISE THAT I WILL MAKE THOUSANDS A DAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK TIM, OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
MARTHA
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Hi Martha,
Anyone who promises you a certain amount of revenue should be avoided. Nothing is 100% successful for all people, whether aspirin or business model.
Good luck!
Tim
Hi Martha,
Anyone who promises you a certain amount of revenue should be avoided. Nothing is 100% successful for all people, whether aspirin or business model.
Good luck!
Tim
I would love to learn some tips and ideas on meme creation, product categorization, social media marketing etc. My questions follow:
1. How do you jump-start traffic to a site/blog without using google adwords?
2. What do you think about having an old-style sales letter (headling and long copy filled with bullet points of benefits) vs. one or many articles to sell a product
3. What is the quickest way to create an ebook and start making a small but steady income within 30 days when you have very little experience in the niche? I'm thinking: Research -> Test -> Produce but can it be done in 30 days?
4. How do you create a category to stand apart from the crowd? You've done this both with your product (neural accelerator) and your book (lifestyle design) What is the process you go through to come up with these labels?
That's all I have for now, but I'm sure I can think of more.
Thanks for writing your book and igniting a revolution in my life.
Jose
For category differentiation, the only book you need to read is "The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing." You'll love it.
Pura vida,
Tim
http://www.ThirtyDayChallenge.com/challenge/14254
Saw you're in Louisiana on your Twitter. You're only three hours away from one of the best cheat days you'll ever have. Head down to Lafayette, LA if you get a chance. It'll make you want to write a 12+ Gems of South Louisiana.
Cheers,
Chris
Lafayette Native
Jose
If you're still in LA (Louisiana) you may want to check out Natchitoches, LA. Great little town with a lot of history and good food. Only 1 hour south of Shreveport.
chris d - is right Lafayette is another great city.
Great feedback on Twitter. I recently joined the community and was told to follow a large mix of people, so that I can learn the ropes. Ever since I did it it has been like drinking from a fire hose. And have found that Pareto's rule applies here, just like everywhere else. About 20% of people I am following regularly tweet. And only 20% of those provide valuable "mini-blog" information.
- Mike Michalowicz
Warmly,
Natalie Pajak
First thing on the road, Dad would say Colorado or Minn. We had realtives in both areas.
I've always been free to change - the more the better
Thnx tim
I'm doing a road trip from sandiego to San Fran and purchased the four hour work week Audio CD. (4hww was the only cover without a man in a suit pulling a cheezy head!) man this stuff is unbeleivable, thankyou Tim, I've got a pretty damn good existence as it is, and I've read plenty of self help (don't tell anyone!) but stuff is phenomenal. Thankyou so much Genius.
Have you thought about creating a travel section on your website, so that those of us who don't know where to look for recommendations have a good resource? Someone like yourself who doesn't want to spend thousands of dollars on a vacation and wants to live like a king for a few days? I know you end up finding great deals on flights and destinations, but this is a lost art in my mind. Travel sites are crap and seem to always suck as much money out of your wallet as possible.
Check out a freaky new hotel over in Austria which has a "pay as much as you like" policy (cant get cheaper than that unless you're a hermit stayin in an ashram):
www.dasparkhotel.net
It's a comfortable hotel room inside a repurposed drain pipe!!
I'm definitely thinking of a stronger travel tie-in. Thx for the reminder!
Tim
Just joined Twitter and felt it could be a time suck and WAY too much info, way too often. Your three rules made sense to me.THank you!
BTW, you were fabulous at NSA...break dancing and break-out session. I've told everyone YOU were worth the priced of the convention. And you were so gracious and NICE when we spoke after your session.
With my next book coming out in OCtober (Face To Face), you were timely, generous, brilliant and gave me so many ideas.tha I've shared with the house's publicity person. I'm a blogger for four years, joined Twitter last month and now will be better at both because of you.
Your break dancing put my "hip hop" classes to shame. Very cool!
Susan RoAne
Thanks so much for the kind words! Hope to see you again soon, but next time I want to see some moves :)
All the best,
Tim
You forgot about one of the best gems....My secret swimming spot *tween Seattle and Vancouver.
Du hast eine grosse Abentuer vermisst! Maybe you were just worried my German would prove to be too advanced for you? ;)
Mozart's Left Toe
Love the blog, Tim.
But those three simple rules added more value to me than the 10-20 posts i've read on Twitter on sites like Jon Chow, Problogger, and hosts of other sites about making money online.
Thanks... just discovered your blog... but will def continue reading
Hope you are enjoying London!
On the other side of the canal, in Amsterdam, I am organizing a big and special party. It's becoming huge! It's 'My Super Sweet 30' Festival. I've been wanting to invite you, becuase you inspired me with your book. Also, I am throwing the party as a pressie for my friends at this milestone. And to prove you can still set up something GREAT with NO budget AT ALL!!! :) Yihaa!
The great thing is that there are some investors interested. It's all just for the love of it, against all odds, with a bunch of energy of one person and goodwill of many!
It is in a circus tent in an old huge warehouse, it's promising to be a happy styleful mess! Just as I like it.
Check the website...
Today I just realized, I am actually doing what I dreamed off many times, and what I fantasized off as a kid....and now it's one big self forfilling prophecy!
If you are in the neighbourhood, it would be great to have you as a special guest and party together.
You are most welcome!
Can't figure out how to work Twigger...sorry!
Regards Justine.
I laughed outloud when I read "just ate a burrito. Mmmm… good" because its so true. I use Twitter for the social networking aspects and it has been valueable in that respect...but some of the posts can be pretty silly. I am all about the low-information diet. I have been trying to work to cut back on useless information like actually reading email forwards and so on. No more!
Great post and love your book.
Sheila
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